Comments for Ontology and Metaprogramming http://ddwyndham.com Discussion of Second and First Order Systems Sun, 20 May 2012 14:36:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 Comment on Hello Ontology and Metaprogramming Enthusiasts! by drdodds http://ddwyndham.com/2006/07/08/hello-world/#comment-3 drdodds Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:26:08 +0000 http://ddwyndham.com/2006/07/08/hello-world/#comment-3 Sometimes bleeding edge stuff when used together has to have all the duckies lined up just so. This is an example of what this blog is about. Software, even bleeding edge stuff has no clue about anything much. When systems, such as AspectJ and Eclipse (which I like alot), do not have *negotiation* capability in their programming interface it is then left up to the human user to make sure all those necessary T\'s are crossed and I\'s dotted. Anyone learning the C++ language can attest to the ocean of specific knowledge that the programmer must know in order to get all those lines (bits and pieces) of code to operate functionally. Programming, whether with AspectJ or other, is like putting together a very large puzzle, making sure all the bits are inserted and locked into the right receptor. In programming there are still concerns about data typing, argument lists and so on. Second order systems do not have this low level stuff because they have negotiation at their subsystem interfaces. Negotiation [software technology] is able to \"ask\" a possible co-operating (sub)system it is attempting to interwork with what the other needs to know and receive from the asker in order to get on with things. Negotiative processing in biological systems does not happen by magic nor phlogisten. As for current AspectJ and Eclipse one is probably best off by keeping close to the community of folks who do that kind of work, community is power and knowledge, and usually willing to help. Sometimes bleeding edge stuff when used together has to have all the duckies lined up just so. This is an example of what this blog is about. Software, even bleeding edge stuff has no clue about anything much. When systems, such as AspectJ and Eclipse (which I like alot), do not have *negotiation* capability in their programming interface it is then left up to the human user to make sure all those necessary T\’s are crossed and I\’s dotted. Anyone learning the C++ language can attest to the ocean of specific knowledge that the programmer must know in order to get all those lines (bits and pieces) of code to operate functionally. Programming, whether with AspectJ or other, is like putting together a very large puzzle, making sure all the bits are inserted and locked into the right receptor. In programming there are still concerns about data typing, argument lists and so on. Second order systems do not have this low level stuff because they have negotiation at their subsystem interfaces. Negotiation [software technology] is able to \”ask\” a possible co-operating (sub)system it is attempting to interwork with what the other needs to know and receive from the asker in order to get on with things. Negotiative processing in biological systems does not happen by magic nor phlogisten. As for current AspectJ and Eclipse one is probably best off by keeping close to the community of folks who do that kind of work, community is power and knowledge, and usually willing to help.

]]> Comment on Hello Ontology and Metaprogramming Enthusiasts! by andrew cooke http://ddwyndham.com/2006/07/08/hello-world/#comment-2 andrew cooke Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:28:35 +0000 http://ddwyndham.com/2006/07/08/hello-world/#comment-2 do you have aspectj working? i just found this place (via technorati) searching for info because it seems so flakey. the latest usable combination i've found is eclipse 3.1.2 and aspectj 1.3.0. the latest aspectj for both eclipse 3.1 and 3.2 doesn't work (in that eclipse fails to flag errors in the package + console displays). a bit more info at http://www.acooke.org/cute/NotesonUpd0.html#Sun-9-Jul-2006-17-09-40-0400-CLT and http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/aspectj-users/msg06065.html do you have aspectj working? i just found this place (via technorati) searching for info because it seems so flakey. the latest usable combination i’ve found is eclipse 3.1.2 and aspectj 1.3.0. the latest aspectj for both eclipse 3.1 and 3.2 doesn’t work (in that eclipse fails to flag errors in the package + console displays).

a bit more info at http://www.acooke.org/cute/NotesonUpd0.html#Sun-9-Jul-2006-17-09-40-0400-CLT and http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/aspectj-users/msg06065.html

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